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Month: November 2007

The Party Peters

Yesterday, we looked at what “power broker” Michael Kroger was offering the Liberal Party: The gift of more power for himself and his friends.

Well, his is not the only view.

There are other Liberals with other views. At least two of them, anyway.

One isthat ofPeter Coleman. The other, of Peter Dutton.

Let’s have a quick look at the offerings of these two Peters and then conclude with a rhyme.

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Michael Kroger’s slick dictatorial masterplan for the Liberal Party

Following the decisive defeat of the Liberal Party at last Saturday’s Australian federal election, Liberal Party “power broker” (whatever that means),Michael Kroger, was quoted in today’s The Australian offering his “solution” to the problems of the Liberal Party.

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Prophetic insights miss the Mark, Luke, and Matthew

In my interview with Danny Nalliah of Catch The Fire Ministries, Danny said:

20 min 55 sec:
Well, I believe with all my heart believe … that the Prime Minister will be re-elected to government. And also that the Federal Treasurer would be handed over the leadership.

21 min 32 sec:
Now this was something I knew because God spoke to me and told me very clearly a few days prior to the meeting with John Howard and Peter Costello – as to what was going to be the future of this country in the next election.

And that we should pray for righteous leaders to lead this country because the word of God says righteousness exalts a nation.

I also note that Catch The Fire also has an article, dated November 20, 2007 (4 days before the Federalelection in which the Howard government was slaughtered by Labor)on its website, titled Kenneth Copeland a Leading Prophetic Voice in the World Predicts PM John Howards Re-Election, which states:

God’s man in Australia [referring to John Howard] stood up and publicly declared Australia a Christian nation!

[Allegedly quoting Mr Howard] “If you want to come here and join us in our Christian faith you are welcome here but don’t think you can come in here and try and force some other religion here on us and don’t think you are going to tell us how to believe God and who we are going to worship.”

He publicly did that, now this is no time for that man to be defeated. Well he’s not going to be. Amen. He is Lord to the glory of God the Father. He is Lord to the glory of God the Father. He is Lord over Australia! It has been announced! Amen.

I’m not aware of Mr Howard ever having made such a statement.

Regarding the above quote, I note thatCatch The Fire blogger,Office 2, is supposed to be quoting Col Stringer who in turn is supposed to be quoting Kenneth Copeland who in turn is supposed to be quoting John Howard.

This is pretty messystuff, to put it mildly.

Danny Nalliah has doneoutstanding and heroicwork in defending free speech. His defence of free speech has notrelied onthe sorts ofdubious (again, that’s putting it mildly) “prophetic insights” exemplified above.

It can be time-consuming and tedious work separating the good from the bad from the ridiculous when understanding or judging an individual.

It’s wrong to de-legitimise the good work of an individual by clumping it together with his flawed work.

Equally, it’s wrong to ignore or gloss over the mistakes or sins of an individual because we admire him.

The truth is the Whole Truth.

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Labor Party victory

Congratulations to the Labor Party on its impressive win in the Australian Federal election.

I saw firsthand what powerful campaigners the Labor Party were when I ran as an independent in the Albert Park by-election a few months ago. Labor womped it in back then with Martin Foley and his team.

And Kevin Rudd had done it for Federal Labor tonight.

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Celebrate Capitalism campaign – 4 Guidelines

The 4 Guidelines of the Celebrate Capitalism ™ campaign are now online at:

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Splattering and sleeping their way to a nuclear free Australia!

Photos by Tim Warner of anti-nuclear “protesters” defacing, splattering paint, vandalising, picketing and … relaxing … yesterday afternoon (Monday 19th of November 2007) outside the headquarters of the Liberal Party, 104 Exhibition Street, Melbourne, Australia.

Peaceful protesters exercising their right to block access to 104 Exhibition Street – The Liberal Party’s head office – in the last few days before the Federal election.

Dreaming of a better world. One where people’s property is respected. Where rational thinking reigns supreme. Where nuclear energy is clean, safe, and cheap. But even if it were so … who would believe it? Aye! There’s the rub!

A born leader. A prophet. The next Al Gore. Known simply as “The Straddler” – it was he who masterminded this whole extraordinary event. A man whose ability to sit astride cylindrical objects will one day become the stuff of legends. But for now he bides his time. Waiting, thinking, plotting.

A classic love triangle.
She loves him. But he loves that other bitch.

The other bitch.

Armed and ready to photograph anyone who breaches her goddamn right to vandalise and intimidate people!!

The Liberal Party is the enemy!!

… Yes … the enemy … that’s right … crush the enemy …

Just an ordinary guy lying on the street, splattered with fluro paint, with his arm inside a drum. Melbourne is full of them. You get used to them after a while. And frankly, the tourists just adore them!

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Celebrate Capitalism campaign – 3 Broad Aims

At the new Celebrate Capitalism ™ website, I’ve added notes on the 3 Broad Goals of the campaign:

Over the next few days I’ll be writing about the 4 Guidelines of the campaign.

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SOLID VOX interview: Why did Danny do it?


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PRODOS interviews thecontroversial PastorDanny Nalliah of Catch The Fire Ministries.

Topics covered include:

  • Why, in October 2005,Danny Nalliahacceptedan invitationto address the holocaust-denying Australian League of Rights
  • He sets the record straight about what did and did not happen at that meeting -including with regards toa questionput to him about theHolocaust,from the founder of the anti-Semitic Adelaide Institute
  • Why he’d be happy toattend such a meetingagain even though he believes 100% in the Holocaust, supports Israel, and even has an Israel flag in his office.
  • The Christian missionary tradition of the last 2,000 years and how his actions are consistent with the teachings of Jesus
  • About his meeting with Prime Minister John Howard
  • Why he supports John Howard and Peter Costello, and is critical of Labor Party leader, Kevin Rudd
  • Why hediffers with Colin Rubenstein and possibly other Jews regarding dealing with the likes of the League of Rights.
  • And much more!

I didn’t ask Danny Nalliah this question, butI wonder what he’d reply: What would Jesus have done?

If Jesus Christ had been invited to address a group such as the League of Rights, would he have accepted or declined?

If he accepted, on what basis would he do so?

If he refused, on what basis would he do so?

Christianity isn’t new. It’s been around for 2,000 years. Unlike Judaism, one ofthe key features of Christianity – supported by passages from The Bible -has always been an emphasis on proselytism.

Evangelical Christians such as Danny Nalliah are especially active and energetic in this regard.

It’s somewhere between amusing and pathetic that ignorant, dumbassed lefties like Jeff Sparrow of Crikey and Misha Schubert of The Age act sooutraged that Danny Nalliah, a well-known Evangelical Christian would speak at any gathering of the dubious or undesirable.

And it’s bad logic – at the very least – to declare that John Howard and Peter Costello should cut ties with Danny Nalliah because he has basicallybeen doing his job as an EvangelicalChristian Pastor.

Double guilt by association: The League of Rights are baddies. Danny is guilty for “associating” with the League of Rights. Howard and Costello are guilty for “associating” with Nalliah. Of course the Prime Minister and the Treasurer are the key targets here.

Recently, writing for slag-rag,, Jeff Sparrow wrote: “Catch the Fire [Ministries, run by Danny Nalliah,] is a bigoted group, and it is shameful that mainstream politicians associate with it.”

And with staggering ignorance, Jeff Sparrow refers to the accusations made by the Islamic Council of Victoria*, later upheld by VCAT, and then later DISCREDITED by the Supreme Court of Victoria, Court of Appeals, that Catch The Fire “had described Muslims as drug-dealing demons training to make Australia an Islamic state.”

He then dares the Australia Israel Jewish Affairs Council (who, by the way, do great work) to join his chorus of viciousness and ignorance.

* By the way, the supposedly “moderate”Islamic Council of Victoria’s website recommends – which advocates the murder of apostates. Justthought, Jeff Sparrows and Misha Schubert might be interested.

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Kevin Rudd’s Here New, There New, Everywhere a New New Leadership!

After you. No, after you. But I insist. No, really.

Here’s how things stood until just the other day when Kevin Rudd finally”clarified” what his policy on Kyoto really is …

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Danny Nalliah guilty of being a Chrisitian

Misha Schubert in Melbourne’s The Age reports on Pastor Danny Nalliah’s (Catch The Fire Christian Ministries)not so recent talk (October 08 2005) at the anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denyingAustralian League of Rights.

Nalliah is quoted as saying:

“I thought maybe it is a good opportunity to go and speak and I can change some of their thinking


“Let me be honest and truthful – if I am invited again, I will go again. I am not going to talk about anti-Jewish and anti-Islam; my message is about Christ and salvation.”


One guy in the crowd put his hand up and said ‘Do you believe in the Holocaust?’ …I said ‘To deny the Holocaust would be like saying there will be no daybreak tomorrow morning’.”

The “guy in the crowd” seems to have been Gerald Fredrick Töben, the founder and director of the holocaust-denialist Adelaide Institute, and last yeara guest at Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s Review of the Holocaust: global vision.

From Töben’s Adelaide Institute website:

Fredrick Töben asked Pastor Nalliah one question: ‘Pastor, do you believe in the ‘Holocaust’?

He replied indirectly that Jews had suffered greatly in the past. Töben asked again: ‘Do you believe in the ‘Holocaust’? The good pastor said something about not knowing anything about the topic.

Jeff Sparrow, author of Communism: A Love Story,writing, (subscribers-only link) quotes the above item from the Adelaide Institute and then ponders …

You will note the difference between this coy response and Nalliah’s new claim to haveasserted that the Holocaust was as undeniable as daybreak.

… it’s hard to knowwhich of them is telling the truth.

Nalliah is not making a “new claim”. The”old claim” was not made by Nalliah.

The “old claim” by Töben does not include the “undeniable as daybreak” phrase,but it does refer tohow Nalliah had “replied indirectly …” which could just as well be Töben’s way of referring to the metaphorical “undeniable as daybreak” statement by Nalliah.

I spoke briefly with Danny Nalliah about 12 hours ago and will be recording an interview with him on Thursday afternoon (Nov 01 2007).

I asked him if he supported Israel. He statedhe did – very much so -and that his office displays the flag of Israel in a prominent position.

I asked him if he accepted the Holocaust. He saidhe most certainly did and said a few things about the vastness of the horror.

I asked him about whether, at theLeague of Rights meeting,he’d “said something about not knowing anything about the topic”. He replied that he had said something at that meetingto the effect that he was not an expert or scholar on the subject.

Before phoning Danny Nalliah I phoned the Adelaide Institute and left a message on its answering machine explaining I was wanting to clarify what was actually said at the meeting in question. As yet I’ve received no reply.

From Catch The Fire’s website:

We also oppose the denial of the plain facts of history concerning the suffering of religious or racial groups, including the Holocaust, the treatment of non-Muslims under sharia conditions, or the persecution of religious communities by Communist regimes.

Was it wrong for Pastor Danny Nalliah to attend the League of Rights meeting? Even after he was warned by colleagues that they were anti-Israel and anti-Jew?

I’ll put this to Danny when I speak with him, but it’s hardly any sort of secret that Catch The Fire is an Envangelical group.

As in Mark 16:15 …

Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

And Matthew 28:19

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,

It’s their job – their “mission” – to go anywhere and everywhere. To spread the Word, to preach, to save, to convert. That’s what Evangelicals do. That’s what Danny Nalliah does. That’s what it seems to me he was doing at the League of Rights meeting.

The Evangelical tradition is, to my knowledge, not a feature of Judaism.

The (not unreasonable) concern that many would have about associating or being seen mixing with unsavoury people or groups doesn’t apply to the Evangelicals when they’re engaging in their Missionary work.

AsCatch The Fire Ministriessays onits website, their job is ….

To take the good news of the gospel from town to town, city to city, state to state, country to country and proclaim the name of Jesus through prayer and action.

[Update: Regarding the section below, I’m replacing the quote I had from this link with verifiable Bible references.]

And, asthe followingstory about Jesus clarifies, Danny Nalliah is not only acting according toChristian principles, he would be going against such principles if he was to place fear of”reputation” above his Mission. [snip]

Luke 5:27-32

[27]And after these things he went forth, and saw a publican, named Levi, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he said unto him, Follow me. [28] And he left all, rose up, and followed him.

[29] And Levi made him a great feast in his own house: and there was a great company of publicans and of others that sat down with them. [30] But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? [31] And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. [32] I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Matthew: 9:9-13

[9] And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.

[10] And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

[11] And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners? [12] But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. [13] But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Mark 2:14-17

[14] And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.

[15] And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him. [16] And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners? [17] When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Danny Nalliah is a good man. I stand by him.

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