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Danny Nalliah “Satan’s strongholds” leaflet: Clearing up 3 misconceptions

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INTRODUCTION

The purpose of this article isto clear up three misconceptions about a controversial leafletcreated and distributed by Danny Nalliah of Catch The Fire Ministries. These misconceptions have been busily circulating across the mainstream media, and the web.

In an earlier article I provided the text and some comments about thisleaflet.

Here is the portion that’s usually quoted. It appears under the heading, “Prayer Strategies”…

5. Ask the Lord to give you insight. Spot Satan’s strongholds in the area you living in (brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosques, temples – Freemason/ Buddhist /Hindu etc. witchcraft)

[ … ]

7. If you are ready to pray against it, do so. If not bring it to your church and ask your intercessors through the pastor to pull these strongholds down.

THREE FAT FALSEHOODS

The three widely circulating errors are:

  1. That this leaflet – or some version of it – was used by Danny Nalliah in 2004
  2. … during his campaigning or as part of his campaigning as a candidate for the Family First Party of Australia during the 2004 federal election.
  3. And that this leaflet is – or amounts to – an incitement to violence.

After obtaining a faxed copy of this leaflet, I wrote as follows to Jason Golden at Catch The Fire onTuesday onDec 11 2007 …

[ … ]

One claim which has been widely repeated in the media, concerning the TEXT of that fax you sent me is based on an article in The Age by [ … ] Misha Schubert.

His [actually “her”] article is @ http://tinyurl.com/2w6yep

He[“She”] wrote:

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As a Family First Victorian Senate candidate in the 2004 federal election, a pamphlet written by Pastor Nalliah was condemned by Nationals Senate candidate Barnaby Joyce as evidence the church was part of “the lunatic right”.

“Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosques, temples – Freemasons/Buddhist/Hindu etc, witchcraft,” the leaflet said.
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Question:

The fax you sent me was dated 2002, not 2004.

In 2004, when Danny stood as a Family First senate candidate in Victoria [ … ]did he in fact distribute a leaflet which used the SAME text (“Spot Satan’s strongholds etc.”) as the one you sent me, which is dated 2002?

Question:

If he DID distribute such a leaflet in 2004, did he do so in his role as a Family First candidate, or did he do so by way of promoting “Rise Up Australia!”?

Related question: If he DID distribute such a leaflet in 2004, was the leaflet marked as being an authorised “Family First” leaflet? Or was the leaflet clear about NOT being a Family First Party leaflet?

Jason forwarded my questions to Danny Nalliah, who then repliedon Wednesday Dec 12 2007:

The answer is a BIG NO. There was nothing in 2004.

They were misquoting.

Cheers/Danny

Danny Nalliah claims that neither the “Satan’sstrongholds”leaflet – nor anything else with the same text – was used in in 2004. And certainly not as any part of his election campaigning.

Furthermore, this leaflet was written for a particular target audience: Evangelical Christians.

This is an important point, because its language andterminology – including terms such as “Satan’s strongholds” – is standard “Prayer Warrior” and “Spiritual Warfare” talk. I provide some relevant Biblical references further down.

Iphoned Family First Party in order toverify whether or not Danny Nalliah used the “Satan’s strongholds” leaflet during 2004.

I was toldby a rather uppity and nervous spokeswoman that Family First “decline to comment”, andthat was their official position, after which she abruptly hung up on me.

I phoned her straight back to tell her she’d hung up on me, and she said something to the effect that “I thought we’d finished”. To which I responded that as neither she nor I had said “bye bye”, that hardly seems likely. Bye bye. And Merry Christmas.

More about Family First in just a moment.

THEPOLITICIAN

My research indicates that it was National Party member …

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Barnaby Joyce, whofirst brought the “Satan’s strongholds”leaflet to the attention of the media in 2004, just before the October 08 2004 Australian Federal election.

Nationals split over Family First deal
Greg Roberts (The Australian)
October 08, 2004

THE Queensland Nationals have broken ranks with the Coalitionover its preferences deal with the Family First Party, with Nationals Queensland Senate candidate Barnaby Joyce describing the Assemblies of God-affiliated party as “the lunatic Right”.

[ … ]

Mr Joyce said he was deeply disturbed by a leaflet published by a Family First Victorian Senate candidate, Danny Nalliah, of the Catch the Fire Ministries.

“Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottleshops, mosque, temples — Freemasons/Buddhist/Hindu etc, witchcraft,” the leaflet says.

“If you are ready to pray against it, do so. If not, bring it to your church and ask your intercessors, through the pastor, to pull these strongholds down.”

Mr Joyce said he believed no party should be swapping preferences with Family First.

“This is the lunatic Right, this is crazy, ill-informed stuff,” he said.

“They seem to be saying we should be tearing down mosques and tearing down bottleshops.

[ … ]

If Barbaby Joyce, who I believe is a Christian -though not an Evangelical, as far as I know – based his knowledge of this leaflet on seeing an actual physical copy of it, he would have seen that itwas about prayer, not physical destruction.

He would also have seen that the leaflet was dated 2002, and was not related to the Family First Party, nor used in 2004 by Danny Nalliah.

But what aboutGreg Roberts?

ONE OF SEVERAL JOURNALISTS

Isn’t it his job as a journalist and aspart of his professional ethical code to:

  • locate the leaflet?
  • examine it?
  • speak to its authors and promoters?
  • i.e. To investigate the matter?
  • To check whether it’s true or not?
  • To check whether it might bemerelythe ruse of a political opponent?

Did Greg Roberts actually see the leaflet he wrote about?

If Greg Roberts didn’tinvestigate all of the above- and I haven’t been able to find evidence of any sort of follow-up by him that would indicate he did- he has failed toperform bothhis professional and moral duties.

If Greg Roberts did see the leaflet, then it’stroubling that he didn’t at least mention it wasdated 2002.

Either way, Greg Roberts has contributed to the spread of misconception and to the villification of Danny Nalliah.

No wonder surveys show “the trustworthiness of journalists at about the level of politicians and as only slightly more credible than used-car salesmen”. Thanks Greg.

Source: The above excerpt of Greg Roberts’ articleappears to originally come fromthis now dead link. However, I was able to find a copy of it archivedat farzadsf1gallery.com (Oct 09, 2004) in one of its “off-topic” threads.

THE CHAIRMAN

Another individual who must bear significant responsibility for the spread of error and slander against Danny Nalliah is …

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Peter Harris, who back in 2004 (and at least some of 2005) was Federal Chairman of Family First Party (as well as active in Assemblies of God– a Christian Evangelical group.)

In 2004, Tony Jones of ABC Lateline interviewed Peter Harris.

Here is an excerpt from the interview transcript:

TONY JONES: It may only be getting picked up by the newspapers, but there does seem to be quite a lot of a religious nature, for example, do you stand by the material put out by one of your candidates, Pastor Danny Nalliah in Victoria, who called on his followers to pull down Satan’s strongholds.

They included, along with brothels and gambling places, mosques and temples.

Most Australians would consider that to be an incitement to religious violence.

PETER HARRIS: Oh, absolutely.

And some people would see it that way but we, you know, we last week totally distanced ourself from that situation.

We received a letter from the Islamic Council of Victoria.

We responded to that letter and our position is simply that we totally promote and believe in the freedom of speech, the freedom of religion, the freedom of choice.

And I personally contacted the Islamic Council of Victoria and expressed that view and they reflected a sense of relief that Family First wasn’t about that.

Peter Harris flunks out miserably at every level here. His response is craven and cringing, and hardly “Christ-like”. He sells Danny down the river.

  • He failsto mention that the leaflet was not used by Danny Nalliah during the 2004 campaign.
  • He fails to mention that the leaflet is actually dated 2002
  • … and is a promotional hand-out for “Rise Up Australia!” – which has nothing to do with the election.
  • He failsto challenge the suggestion made by theinterviewerthat the leaflet is or amounts to some sort of “incitement to religious violence” by …
  • … failing to point out that it is actually about “prayer strategies” – and that the “pulling down of Satan’s strongholds” meant to be done by spiritually, andthrough God. And, most importantly: It is not about thephysical destruction of these “strongholds”.
  • He fails to say anything about “Prayer Warriors” – who are common amongstEvangelicals of the kind he mixes with – or the terminology of”spiritual warfare“- which the leaflet uses.

And how chillingly ironic that Peter Harris is reassuring the Islamic Council of Victoria (ICV) of all people, about how pro free speech Family First really are, when it was the ICV who set out to stifle free speech by taking Danny Nalliah (and Daniel Scot)to court for criticising Islam and Jihad.

The ICV’s complaint against Danny Nalliah, Daniel Scot, and Catch The Fire, was subsequently shredded by the Court of Appeal, which overturned and criticised VCAT’s earlier “guilty” verdict in no uncertain terms.

ANOTHER REPORTER

Misha Schubert is another journalist who needs to re-read her job description and get acquainted with the ethical standards of her discredited profession.

Writing in The Age

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PM’s message to controversial sect
Misha Schubert, Political Correspondent Canberra
January 19, 2007

[ … ]

As a Family First Victorian Senate candidate in the 2004 federal election, a pamphlet written by Pastor Nalliah was condemned by Nationals Senate candidate Barnaby Joyce as evidence the church was part of “the lunatic right”.

Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosques, temples — Freemasons/Buddhist/Hindu etc, witchcraft,” the leaflet said.

“If you are ready to pray against it, do so. If not, bring it to your church and ask your intercessors, through the pastor, to pull these strongholds down.”

Let’s now have a look atthe Spiritual Warfare/Prayer Warrior approach.

BIBLICAL ROOTS

Here are two Biblical quotes which provide Christiantheological foundations for this approach.

First …

Corinthians 10:3-5 (King James Version)

3: For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

4: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds😉

5: Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Note the use of the term “strong holds” – a term which is used in the leaflet.

Note also, there is no suggestion whatsoever of physical violence. Indeed, the physical realm is considered inappropriate.

“The weapons of warfare are not carnal” is understood as meaning some thing like:

The weapons we use in our fight are not made by humans. Rather, they are powerful weapons from God. With them we destroy people’s defenses, that is, their arguments

This is about “spiritual warfare”.

As explained at ChristNotes.org regarding Corinthians, Chapter10 …

… The work of the ministry is a spiritual warfare with spiritual enemies, and for spiritual purposes.

Outward force is not the method of the gospel, but strong persuasions, by the power of truth and the meekness of wisdom.

Conscience is accountable to God only; and people must be persuaded to God and their duty, not driven by force.

Thus the weapons of our warfare are very powerful; the evidence of truth is convincing.

Second…

Ephesians 6:10-18 (King James Version)

10: Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11: Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13: Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14: Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15: And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16: Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17: And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Note the use of all the”warrior” words used entirely as metaphors.Not at all used to either describe or advocate any sort of physical violence.

Again, some more exegesis from Christnotes.com

Spiritual strength and courage are needed for our spiritual warfare and suffering.

Those who would prove themselves to have true grace, must aim at all grace; and put on the whole armour of God, which he prepares and bestows.

The Christian armour is made to be worn; and there is no putting off our armour till we have done our warfare, and finished our course.

The combat is not against human enemies, nor against our own corrupt nature only; we have to do with an enemy who has a thousand ways of beguiling unstable souls.

The devils assault us in the things that belong to our souls, and labour to deface the heavenly image in our hearts.

We must resolve by God’s grace, not to yield to Satan. Resist him, and he will flee. If we give way, he will get ground.

If we distrust either our cause, or our Leader, or our armour, we give him advantage.

The different parts of the armour of heavy-armed soldiers, who had to sustain the fiercest assaults of the enemy, are here described. There is none for the back; nothing to defend those who turn back in the Christian warfare.

Truth, or sincerity, is the girdle.

This girds on all the other pieces of our armour, and is first mentioned. There can be no religion without sincerity.

The righteousness of Christ, imputed to us, is a breastplate against the arrows of Divine wrath. The righteousness of Christ implanted in us, fortifies the heart against the attacks of Satan.

Resolution must be as greaves, or armour to our legs; and to stand their ground or to march forward in rugged paths, the feet must be shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace.

Motives to obedience, amidst trials, must be drawn from a clear knowledge of the gospel. Faith is all in all in an hour of temptation. Faith, as relying on unseen objects, receiving Christ and the benefits of redemption, and so deriving grace from him, is like a shield, a defence every way. The devil is the wicked one.

Violent temptations, by which the soul is set on fire of hell, are darts Satan shoots at us. Also, hard thoughts of God, and as to ourselves. Faith applying the word of God and the grace of Christ, quenches the darts of temptation.

Salvation must be our helmet. A good hope of salvation, a Scriptural expectation of victory, will purify the soul, and keep it from being defiled by Satan.

To the Christian armed for defense in battle, the apostle recommends only one weapon of attack; but it is enough, the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. [ … ]

A single text, well understood, and rightly applied, at once destroys a temptation or an objection, and subdues the most formidable adversary.

Prayer must fasten all the other parts of our Christian armour. [ … ]

By the way, the above excerpts from ChristNotes.org are taken from …

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Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary, dated 1706.

i.e. It’s nothing new. It’sthree hundred years old. That’s at least how long this sort of language and this sort of Spiritual Warfare/Prayer Warriorapproach has been around.

Within this tradition, the Danny Nalliah leaflet is quite run-of-the-mill. It is in factnot controversial or novel or in any way extraordinary.

EXAMPLES

Now a fewexamples of those who have perpetuated the 3 falsehoods …

ReligiousTolerance.org

During 2004-NOV, Nalliah ran for a seat in the Australian Senate as a candidate for the Family First Party. One of his competitors Barnaby Joyce, [from the National Party] attacked Nalliah, quoting from one of Nalliah’s brochures.

According to Wikipedia, they allegedly:

“….asked parishioners to pray to their god in order that he might pull down ‘Satan’s strongholds’, which included brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosques and temples (including Freemason, Buddhist and Hindu temples).”

unBelief.org writes:

Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosques, temples – Freemasons/ Buddhist/Hindu etc., witchcraft) … If you are ready to pray against it, do so. If not, bring it to your church and ask your intercessors, through the pastor, to pull these strongholds down. (Family First Party election leaflet written in 2004 by Nalliah, as quoted in Misha Schubert ‘PM’s message to controversial sect’, Age, 19 Jan. 2007)

Note theexplicit, false, claim that the “Satan’s strongholds” leaflet was “written in 2004“.

Commentingin Muslim “libertarian” blog, Austrolabe, “Ted Sprague”, tries tocome up with anew and witty, if bigoted, characterization of Danny Nalliah (shortly after I had shown thatan earlier derogatory characterization of Danny Nalliah was based on error).

Making quite the grand ass of himself, “Ted Sprague”writes :

What about Danny “Neighbourhood Mosques are Satan’s strongholds” Nalliah?

And then quotes the following:

Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosques, temples – Freemasons/ Buddhist/Hindu etc., witchcraft) … If you are ready to pray against it, do so. If not, bring it to your church and ask your intercessors, through the pastor, to pull these strongholds down. (Family First Party election leaflet written in 2004 by Nalliah, as quoted in Misha Schubert ‘PM’s message to controversial sect’, Age, 19 Jan. 2007)

It looks like he’s quoting unBelief.org who is in turn quoting and embellishing Misha Schubert.

Another example of distorting the distortionsfrom Austrolabe:

Another prescient example of this is Danny Nalliah, pastor of the fringe church “Catch the Fire Ministries“. Nalliah has previously been alleged to have expressed the desire for God to burn down mosques.

From UK publication, The Guardian:

Danny Nalliah, a Family First candidate on the party’s Victorian senate ticket, has been accused of vilifying Muslims by the Islamic Council of Victoria, and put out a pre-election leaflet in which he urged followers to “pull down Satan’s strongholds”.

“Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottleshops, mosque[sic], temples – Freemasons/Buddhist/Hindu etc, witchcraft,” the leaflet read.

NSW Greens candidate, Lee Rhiannonin her speech to The Humanist Society in 2004:

Family First are the political voice of some ugly policies that we have not heard of in this country since the dark days of sectarian divisions in the first half of last century.

A Family First candidate in Victoria, Pastor Danny Nalliah, called on his followers to pull down Satan’s strongholds, which he named as brothels, gambling places, mosques and temples.

Former Howard Government senior advisor,Greg Barns:

… Such as, for example, the well-publicised conduct of a 2004 Senate candidate for the Family First Party, Danny Nalliah.

Nalliah, a pastor with the Catch the Fire Ministries, distributed a brochure in 2003 which stated, “Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottleshops, mosque, temples – Freemasons/Buddhist/Hindu etc, witchcraft)”.

Greg Barns rests his case on the fact that the untruths about Danny Nalliah are “well publicised”. And his claim that the leaflet/brochure was distributed in 2003 is of course wrong. But at least it’s original!

SocialistWorker.org.au

In 2004, as a candidate for Family First, Pastor Nalliah issued pamphlets asking parishioners to “spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas [where] you are living”, which included “brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosques, [and] temples”.

Renownedslag-rag, Crikey.com.au

Catch the Fire head honcho Danny Nalliah has released a pamphlet, according to The Australian, calling on his followers to “Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosque, temples – Freemasons/Buddhist/Hindu etc …) bring it to your church and ask your intercessors, through the pastor, to pull these strongholds down.”

In the wise words of Barnaby Joyce, “This is the lunatic Right, this is crazy, ill-informed stuff”.

Again from Crikey.com.au, this time bymega-twit Jeff Sparrow

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Pastor Nalliah, you will recall, distinguished himself in 2004 by distributing a leaflet for the Senate election describing brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosques and temples as “Satan’s strongholds”.

Rick Wallace in The Australian

Queensland Nationals senator Barnaby Joyce condemned his party for striking a deal with Family First, for whom Mr Nalliah was a federal candidate in 2004.

“This is the lunatic Right, this is crazy, ill-informed stuff,” he said. “They seem to be saying we should be tearing down mosques and tearing down bottle shops.

“These are not the sort of people you do preference deals with.”

His comments followed the release of a brochure from Mr Nalliah advocating the destruction of places of worship belonging to other religions.

“Spot Satan’s strongholds in the areas you are living (brothels, gambling places, bottle shops, mosque, temples — Freemasons/Buddhist/Hindu etc, witchcraft,” the leaflet says.

CONCLUSION

The common “method” used by everyone who has participated – either intentionally, or through neglect or laziness, or truly innocently – in perpetuating the falsehoods discussed in this article has been that of: OMISSION. i.e. Leaving out relevant information. In nearly all cases, the information that was left out was, given a moderate effort, readilyavailable.

Peter Harris (Family First), Barnaby Joyce (National Party),and the various journalists who have allowed thisto happen are adisgrace to their professionsand should be held accountable.

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3 Comments

  1. Hurrah! Spot on. Thankyou for speaking up for Christian Evangelical understandings which most people do not undesrtstnd and, indeed are probably frightened of, or likely to deliberately or unintenionally misinterpret.

    Danny Nalliah is a leader of immense courge and integrity and has been in situations of witnessing to Christ which the people who criticise him would not be able to contemplate. He is strong because he is Godly.

    The armour of God is one heck of a description and yes, the New Testament and O,ld is full of references to spirits of the air (not good), realms of Satan etc etc etc which all ,at the end of the day add up to the same thing-evil. Misrepresenting people to your own advantage is just one facet of this.

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  2. Thanks for sharing your views Janette.

    My defence of Danny Nalliah in this article is about clearing up misconceptions and misrepresentations that have been circulating about him.

    I’m an Objectivist, and therefore an atheist. As an Objectivist I place a very high priority on people being treated honestly and justly. That includes Christians.

    Danny Nalliah is a very special case because he is not only a good person, he has also done an enormous amount to defend the fundamental right to free speech – successfully challenging the Victorian Labor Party’s “Blasphemy Laws” (The Racial & Religious Tolerance Act).

    The case against him (and Daniel Scot and Catch The Fire) was initiated by the Islamic Council of Victoria who were offended by a seminar run by Catch The Fire which reasonably ACCURATELY exposed some of the violence and Jihadism within Islamic writing and throughout the history of Islam.

    I don’t know what proportion of Muslims actually support the notion of Jihad. Very likely, very few since the Muslims I know personally are hardworking, honest, good people. However, the violent ideas and examples which Daniel Scot – who conducted the “offending” seminar – referenced are definitely there within the key canonical texts of Islam.

    And, as such, have been invoked by modern day Jihadists and modern day Muslim clerics.

    It’s especially awful that journalists – who are a key beneficiary of FREEDOM of speech – have been villifying and perpetuating falsehoods about a man they should be showing gratitude and appreciation towards.

    In June 2007, as Coordinator of the worldwide Celebrate Capitalism Award ™, I approved the Melbourne Capitalism Award 2007 being presented to Danny for his work in defending free speech.

    I am proud to support and defend this wonderful Australian.

    He deserves to be treated fairly and honorably.

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  3. Prodos, I’m proud of you standing up for anyone who has been misrepresented – just standing up for accuracy and truth is a nobel act. And the fact that Danny Nalliah is an evangelical Christian – which is way far away from the Objectivist metaphysics and epistemology – shows how serious you are about upholding honesty and decency towards all.

    I also want to point out that Danny Nalliah said in your interview of him – as did members of his church who participated in the controversial seminar when we spoke to them elsewhere – that there was no hatred expressed towards Muslims at that seminar. It was made clear that it was a minority of Muslims who are champions of jihadism. The two pastors running the seminar claim to have made it clear, several times, that they had reason to believe that many Muslims did not even study the Koran and Hadith, and didn’t know about or take seriously the intolerant aspects of Islam.

    Certainly, with a religion of a billion plus people, there are going to be numerous interpretations of that religion, and many will ignore or bend into a better shape anything they find to be malevolent or wrong, while others will insist on the most stringent and harsh interpretations.

    As I understand it, Catch the Fire Ministries’ seminar on Islam and Jihad took pains to make this clear to participants, and the intent was only to make people aware that jihadism does have roots within the core Islamic writings, and that there *is* a movement within Islam to spread the most severe form of Islam to all parts of the world – and sharia law as well.

    Also, as it is the evangelical raison d’etre to spread Christianity, Catch the Fire’s seminar was meant to help Christians talk to Muslims and introduce them to what Jesus stood for – and to encourage those Muslims to read the Bible and examine their own religious writings to see how the two religions compare. Catch the Fire believes that Islam encourages misconceptions about the Christian religion, even in regard to what makes up the Trinity (God, Jesus, and Mary, rather than the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit). Islam regards the Christian religion to have warped the true messages of Jesus, and to have become (through belief in the Trinity) a polytheistic, and hence false, religion.

    Catch the Fire may or may not have full understanding of what they’ve been offering on the subject of Islam. But I do not believe that they offer it with any malevolence toward Muslim people at all. If they have been spreading mistaken information, then those Muslims who learn about it should make it their business to speak out publicly to correct misconceptions, not to punish Catch the Fire via government inquisition aka VCAT (meaning lots of lost time time, money, and a lot of big stress).

    That’s what freedom of speech is for. The give and take of information, opinion, even rancor, without resort to coercion or violence.

    The Danny Nalliah that I have talked to and heard speak a few times has given me *NO* reason to believe that he is a man who preaches hatred of any kind, or violence, or literal tearing down of other people’s property. He believes in attempting to spread the values he believes in by non-coercive persuasion, much as the rest of us try to persuade others of certain political or economic or philosophic views.

    That is very different from the attitude of those who have raked him and Catch the Fire over the coals at VCAT.

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